
deVere Group
Reviews and Complaints
Devere are the worst
Client Services for DeVere did contact me after my post on this site and investigated my complaint.Regarding my GB 14,000 + loss from the Strategic Growth fund they write that "with Hindsight and knowledge that the advice given by DeVere appeared to be poor"... Opening a new generali Savings fund in place of topping up existing fund was Suitable for my needs and that full policy details were provided.
The end paragraph from DeVere was that if I have any further evidence in my dispute they would be prepared to reconsider but if I remain dissatisfied then I should seek legal advise!In my humble view it looked like a lawyer had written the e-mail.If they had offered a gesture of good will for my losses it would have been welcomed, but they don't have the common sense to understand that I would never ever return my portfolio to Devere or recommend the company to colleagues or contacts who might ask for advise or add this damming conclusion to be shared world wide. ...….
Several years ago DeVere moved assets in my QROPS, without approval, then lost money by opening a new savings account with Generali instead of Amending the existing simply to get commissions, I find this out at a later date when I finally found a trustworthy Adviser, but the really difficult part is DeVere keep calling me and asking me to return which is no only unprofessional but extremely annoying ..
- Anything once they had my cash
- Losing pension money to an inappropriate product
- Pressure applied by the consultant and his assistant
Full refund
5 Years I lost money and the investment companies made £6250.
I moved my small QROPS of £58000 and 5 years later in a period of financial growth of about 10% per year I made a loss and they took £6250 in fees. How can this be legitimate.
So disappointed and a little angry. Trust once lost is never recovered.
- First contact was very professional
- Global scope
- Do not side with clients
- Take no responsibilities for own mistakes
- Lack of transparency
Let the company propose a solution
Resolved: Appalling Quality of Financial Advisors
I was contacted by their Costumer care representative with an adequate solution to my concerns.
It seems like I only contact by the Finacial Advisor when it is of their interest to sell new products or if I provide the contact number for potential new clients.
It is VERY DISAPPOINTING!
- High charges
- Intransparent
- Anything once they had my cash
Let the company propose a solution
deVere Group - Loss of strategic growth fund investment in Providence QROPS
I received some unwelcome news at the beginning of Februaury from the administrators of this plan STM Malta – essentially that with little prospect of any money being realised from the assets of the suspended PLL UAM Strategic Growth Fund the value of this investment is in effect being written off.
The facts as I see them are these:
•Paul Dodds of your Geneva office invested a transfer value of £99,354.66 into this QROPs plan and of that invested roughly 15% into the strategic growth fund in two tranches: an initial £14900.20 on 17.10.2017 and £702.23 on 26.11.2012.
•Less than two months later in February 2013 it appears that the fund was suspended. This nominal investment amount has sat there in stasis ever since while charges are being incurred. It has now been written off.
•Over the past seven years then the value of this pension fund has fallen from it’s initial transfer value to approximately £94,000 despite the length and strength of the bull market since 2010.
•I do not believe I have received any guidance on the nature of the investment in the strategic growth fund nor any formal communication about this situation from deVere despite the company still being named as the advisor on this plan. There was no advice on the illiquid nature of the products this fund has invested in nor during my update conversations with Paul Dodds any communications about its suspension.
I wrote to Paul Dodds directly about this matter on 16 February 2019 by recorded delivery to the deVere office at ROute de l'Aéroport in Geneva. Interestingly the post returned my letter yesterday unopened with the notification, translated, that the receiver could not be found at this address. Paul Dodds is still named as a director on the register of commerce.
I look forward to your response.
- Losing pension money to an inappropriate product
Full refund
Generali Vision sold by deVere
As many others i hav lost much money due to the misguided advice from deVere. In particular the failed Strategic Growth Fund, but also manual processing errors on deVere's side are main contributors.
Apparently the Generali Vision is called now Utmost Vision, without any information, and today i got informed that Utmost Wealth Solutions have made calculations mistakes and as a result must adjust my plan value down 10kEUR.
Outrageous! Can anyone be trusted in this industry?
Any advice on good legal support for this case welcome.
- Good first impression
- Keeps contact
- Intransparent
- Do not side with clients
- Take no responsibilities for own mistakes
Full refund
Devere Unsolicited Calls - STOP USING LINKEDIN AS YOUR TELEPHONE BOOK
Hi,
I'm on Linked in as are many millions of others.
Like many millions of others I have moved around due to my senior roles; this is demonstrated by my role locations in my profile.
Every week I seek your people stalking my profile.
Devere - This does NOT give you the right to screen my profile, obtain my details and then continue to call every 2 weeks asking about where my pension is - I know you are doing this to many others.
I've been polite 30 times and explained NO and asked for you to remove me from your lists...only to find a different person then calling me a week later.
Completely Unprofessional. I will be speaking with LinkedIn about your practices including obtaining contact information & asking for your company to have access removed
Let the company propose a solution
Unauthorized Charges to GAM Star Growth Strategy Fund C
My name is Armando Petrozzi, with Plan Number 9402****. Invested US$62000 but now my plan value is US$52,000.
Despite the fund itseflf has shown 25% profitability in the last 5 years the value of my plan has shown LOSSES of US$9000 due to charges made by DeVere.
I have written my assigned relationship with no response.
I will wait until this week for a formal response. If negative, will start legal actions to recover the funds.
Full refund
Please stop calling! Your agents are rude and disingenuous
Despite repeated requests over the last 2 1/2 years to stop and remove my name and number from their database, the cold-call team in Dubai just will not desist.
After first moving to Dubai over 2 years ago, I received a call from an agent who was very rude when I told him I wasn't looking for financial advice so I requested that no-one from de Vere contact me again.
Unfortunately, they have persisted to call my office regularly, and only today a woman called "Anna" phoned my colleague asking to speak to me and that she knew me.
When I called back, (clearly she did not know me) she made up some BS about me liking a de Vere Facebook post about UK tax advice and tried to sell their financial services.
I understand that the market is competitive but to have agents be rude when declining their services or deceptive when trying to sell services is not the way to go about it. Equally, to continue calling even after having been asked to stop has now led me to write this review.
I'm pretty sure that having requested to have my name removed from their database, still being contacted is likely to breach GDPR
Please stop, this is not the way to do business
Just stop calling me and remove my information from their database
QROPS pension ... lost £150,000
Colin Kneale, a senior partner with deVere Group (Geneva) called me in August 2010, telling me he understood I was a British citizen now resident in Switzerland.
He asked whether I had pension savings back in the UK and, if so, with how many different institutions. I confirmed that I did, and explained these funds were spread across four different funds.
He then told me that I could benefit from the QROPS programme, established by law in the UK in 2006, which allowed UK citizens no longer resident in the UK to move their pension savings into offshore accounts that met specific criteria. He explained that by doing this, I could consolidate those various savings into a single account, making things easier to manage and make my money “work harder”.
I agreed to meet him to discuss.
At that meeting, he asked me to provide details of my UK pension accounts and to sign a letter authorising him to act on my behalf. I did this.
A few months later, he told me that my UK pension funds had been consolidated and had a total value of £154,947.
He then asked what level of risk I was willing to take with those funds and I explained, several times, that as these were my pension savings, my appetite for risk was very low.
Colin recommended a plan with Providence Capital, the trustees of which were Sovereign Trust Limited. He assured me this investment was low risk, ideal for pensions as it would ensure the funds kept pace with inflation. The fund was established in February 2011. Of the £154,947, Providence Capital invested £153,197 in a bond with Royal Skandia International and deducted £1,750 for first year Trustee fees.
Royal Skandia subsequently invested those funds in Four Elements Strategic Growth Plus securities.
In March 2012 I received a valuation of the fund for year end 2011 which showed a slight decline to £145,684. At the end of 2012, the fund had reduced to £134,130 . At the end of 2013, the valuation was £109,087. At no time did anyone from deVere advise me to move my funds elsewhere. By the time I received the 2013 statement and sought to do so, I was told the account had been frozen. Today, it appears there is virtually no hope of recovering any of my savings.
Given that (a) this entire event was prompted by an unsolicited call from a deVere agent, (b) I gave specific instruction that the investment vehicle for my pension savings be low risk and (c) at no time did deVere advise me to move the fund's elsewhere (advice that was offered to other clients), I believe deVere has failed in its duty of care. I would therefore ask the company to restore my pension fund to its start value, as defined in the annual valuation certificate I receive from Sovereign Trust.
Many thanks
Full refund
Strategic Growth (sic) Fund fiasco
Like many UK citizens living in South Africa around 2009/10 I was persuaded by DeVere SA (Tim Sant) to transfer my UK pension funds into an off-shore QROPS account. A significant portion of this was deposited into the now defunct Strategic Growth Fund. I am still paying fees as if the fund is still growing, which, as the fees are far more than the residual growth, will ultimately deplete the total value of my investment.
I have read various press articles about the SG fund fraud and dodgy dealings of DeVere executives in South Africa, and now read that, unsurprisingly, there are no recoverable assets from the Fund. To be honest I would like just to draw what little I have left in the two remaining small QROPS deposits.
My contact at DeVere in South Africa was Richard Pretorius, who no longer replies to emails. I spoke to Nathan Lennox at DeVere UK who was very helpful and explained the details of the issue around the SG fund, but which in effect was 'your f**cked!' It was not worth his while to deal with such a relatively small investment.
I will try to contact the Sovereign Trust in Guernsey directly, where my funds are managed, but not being in any way financially savvy, it would be nice if DeVere were to offer some final assistance for an unhappy former customer in order to close this sorry affair. Ian James
- Assistance by nathan lennox
Let the company propose a solution
Disgusting thieves.
Despite the fact that this company eventually contacted me, they accept absolutely no responsibility for their employees not honouring the promises they made when I invested the money. They have offered me no advice despite the fact that they advertise themselves as investment advisors.
I still do not not know where my investments are, the status of the investment or whether they only exist on paper. The local representative says he cannot advise me. No resolution at all. Their reply to me as follows: "All complaints are assessed on the merits and this is done by an examination of the documentary evidence available.
deVere does not enter into contractual agreements with its clients that require deVere to provide an ongoing service to its clients unless required to by the relevant financial regulator in specific jurisdictions or whereby a client has (for an additional fee) requested our enhanced customer service package in countries where this is option is available. As a matter of good practice, deVere does strive to provide an ongoing service when requested to do so by its clients. Their reply as follows: I have liaised with deVere South Africa. When you first returned to South Africa it was unfortunately not possible for a local adviser to provide you with recommendations on an international product.
deVere cannot be held responsible or liable for government regulations and legislation. However, since that time I understand that Andrew Michael has now contacted you on several occasions and has explained to you that you can set up an ownership structure which would enable him to provide recommendations and make alterations to your policy. This is a South African legal requirement. If you wish to avoid paying extra fees, as your contract is with OMI, you have the option to deal with them directly avoiding any additional costs that an ownership structure would incur.
When recommendations are made to clients, several factors are taken in to consideration, for example, the past performance of the fund, the reputation of the fund manager and the underlying assets within the fund and the strategy of the fund. None of this, however, is a guarantee of future performance. There is always a risk element. Please bear in mind that deVere do not ‘Actively Manage’ and cannot make fund selections without first communicating with you and then following through the action with your full knowledge and consent.
The code of conduct read that your adviser “explained to me/us that unit fund values can go down as well as up and past performance are not necessarily a guide to future performance.” I would like to confirm that Brent Mayhew has no connections to deVere and there is no introducer, referral agreement or arrangement between Mr. Mayhew and deVere. If you have any further questions on your policy Mr. Michael will endeavour to assist you, but, with respect, we cannot uphold your complaint.
Please be advised that, if you remain dissatisfied, you have the right to seek independent legal advice. Yours sincerely Juliette Vincent Client Relations Manager deVere Group"
I have had an uphill battle with this company without any light at the end of the tunnel. My investment advisor has provided absolutely no advice, my investments have depreciated by over 50% over a period of 10 years and the only solution is to withdraw the funds and take the loss.
Unfortunately the small print says that the funds will only be released once the investments have been sold. So for the next 10 years or so, the management fees and commissions will be paid until I suppose the investment ceases to exist. They should be strung up and shot for manoeuvring behind the smoke and mirrors of their marketing lies. I have subsequently been told that my financial advisor was thrown out of Qatar and the UAE, imprisoned in Oman and has left the company.
Through other avenues, I discovered that he still works for the same company but behind a connect "separate" entity. Perhaps all the people that have been fleeced by this company should pay a personal visit to their offices.
Let the company propose a solution
Devere Group stole my family's money
My husband and I purchased a Generali "Vision Plan" #9403**** in Abu Dhabi through Devere Group, in July 2013. We are Americans who were both consulting in the UAE at the time.
For the past 9 weeks (starting on 5/21/18), we have been trying to cash out our policy, having been fully paid in all fees and having an account in good standing. Devere Group and Generali REFUSE to release the the full surrender value of our plan, despite us following every ridiculous instruction.
The Devere Acuma group in Abu Dhabi (evalyn.gomez@***e-acuma.com and jason.ambayec@***e-group.com
Tel: +971 * 509 ****, Mobile:+971 52 9** **39) required an ENORMOUS amount of forms and documentation, all originals with original signatures, to be couriered to Abu Dhabi. Evalyn and Jason received the documents, confirmed that the documents were all correct, and stated that they will forward the documents to Generali in Ireland. Then the Ireland HQs REFUSED to speak to us.
They received the documents and claimed that they were not the right documents. They (Thomas at international number 00253906****) further claimed that the plan we clearly have is illegal to purchase in the UAE. Therefore Devere broke the law selling it to us despite accepting our $3600US monthly payments for nearly 4 years. Thomas further stated that "he doesn't care what we were told." I think that is a side scam, b/c they are still asking for a completely different set of documents such as an original active lease, original utility bill, drivers' license, and a certified copy of my husband's passport...ALL TO PROVE OUR ADDRESS is what Thomas said.
I have DOZENS of emails to prove our experience with Generali and Devere. We are initiating a lawsuit against Generali and Devere for refusing to release the full surrender value of our policy.
- Fraud the company is trying to commit against my family
Release of my full surrender value immediately.
Devere Group Legalised robbery
How can the Ombudsman sleep at night when he allows the Devere group to carry on trading? T.W.M.
- Initial contact
- Anything once they had my cash
Full refund
Strategic Growth Fund Disaster
In 2010, my wife and I received a request from the DeVere representative handling the account to switch a significant part of the mutual funds we had to a group of new funds. This included allocating a quarter of the proceeds to the Strategic Growth Fund.
Three years later, came the debacle which over the last 4 years became a disaster, as it is now almost sure that we have no chance of money recovery. Therefore, under the advice of DeVere, we lost at least a quarter of our savings.
We have contacted DeVere officially, and their response has been simply shocking, denying first any involvement from DeVere, and when confronted with the facts, recommending to seek legal advice !!!
- Losing quarter of funds to a scam compared to a ponzi scheme
Let the company propose a solution
deVere Group - The truth of DeVere Bangkok (ex employee)
I worked for Devere (financial 'co-ordinator'). Essentially the office consists of people from Skegness who used to work in 2nd hand car sales or something equally unqualified.
They promise you the world when you get a job with them. In reality you sit in an office full of arrogant *** and have to call companies claiming to be from 'expat magazine' or something equally as ridiculous in an attempt to source names to then cold call and pitch financial services products to. Names are either sourced this way or Via linked in. Either way you are given no training on products or services.
Simply pressured into 'selling' by under qualified managers. Toby Williams is one of the area managers, he screws expats over then uses the money to spend on projects like his latest - 'The mansion' bangkok nightclub. The others invest in 'Levels' on Soi 11. Invest with them if you wish, just remember the fees are ridiculous and the 'consultants' don't have a clue what they're talking about.
If you're *** enough to say yes then I wish you the best of luck, you're better off buying lottery tickets though.
I would advise you don't invest with them, and if you are tempted by a job offer from them, don't bother. Unless you're from skegness of course...
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Anyone hear of Bernie Madoff, ripped off his friends & investors in billions, gotta do your due diligence before giving your money to complete strangers. Go with recommendations from your most trusted friends/relatives but also check past history/performance.
Don't trust anyone with your hard earned money unless you are 100% sure and even then, don't go all in until promised/expected results materialize.
I totally agree James. Great point made there :)
Apparently they have beeen closed down for 6 months....something to do with regulations and apparently all the **** scam artists are now worried lol
i heard Toby Williams was arrested in UK for stealing old ladies washing off their laundry line??
Buddy of mine today also told me the same. They must have closed down like you said with the regulators and also he was saying they may come up with a company name.
Not sure if so but yeah hope those *** faces leave and also stop scamming people. We work too hard for our money don't let it go
The Thai SEC has published an Investor Alert about deVere in Thailand. deVere Group" and "deVere & Partners (Thailand) Limited" and the website "www.devere-group.com" are all specifically listed by the Thai SEC, with this text:
"Investor Alert - In response to a number of tips and complaints about fraudulent solicitation of unauthorized securities and derivative business by which many of investors has been victimized, the SEC wishes to notify that legitimate businesses are required to receive license to undertake securities business or registered as securities business under the Securities and Exchange Act of 1992 and derivatives business under the Derivatives Act of 2003.
List of licensed business can be found at
To provide investors with information useful for making prudent decision before using investment services, the SEC has prepared a list of unlicensed or unregistered business from the traces and complaints received from investors and will keep the list update. In some cases, the name of unlicensed business may bear resemblance or possess similarity to one another; however, they may be or may be not related.
If you have enquiries about investment in securities and derivatives products or related services, please feel free to contact the SEC at 0 2263 **** or complain@***.or.th. In case of investment that likely to be a fraud or embezzlement with characteristics similar to Ponzi scheme and loan shark, investors may contact or report to Financial Crime Call Center 1359, Ministry of Finance."
Here's the link to the Thai SEC's website: http://market.sec.or.th/public/idisc/InvestorAlert.aspx?lang=en&reportcode=PP07&table=T01
What a b***** made up post...I have heard the original author of the full comment "I worked for deVere" was fired because he was useless and can't even keep a job for more than a few months. Regarding the SEC website what a load of old nonsense I checked it out there's nothing there. I am a client of theirs as of one year and I'm happy and making money (although lost some recently) but that's the investment game.
Trev1966 You obviously did not check the link, or you are lying. Or perhaps you work for deVere or are paid by them to write such rubbish?
Why not call the Thai SEC directly if you have some doubt?
deVere is operating illegally in Thailand. No question about that!
How about a gourmet dinner with some interesting financial opportunities on the side?
deVere Group Thailand is happy to invite you to an exclusive dinner at the award-winning restaurant Enoteca Italiana in Sukhumvit soi 27. The event is complimentary so this is a perfect opportunity to speak to the best in the industry regarding any aspects of finance and your long term financial prosperity.
The invitation is for two people so this is also a good opportunity to bring along any friend or colleague you believe may benefit from such information.
The moderator for the evening is Dr.
Richard Johnsson of the deVere Group in Thailand who will be accompanied by Mr. Idris Asghar and Mr. David Dunn.
Welcome!
RSVP: Register now by sending an email to arjun.bapat@***e-group.com no later than July 30th.
Name and mobile number required. NB! Limited number of seats, so register today. The Team About Dr.
Johnsson Richard received a Ph.D. in economics from Uppsala University in Sweden, but has also studied at Sydney U, Innsbruck U and Oxford U. He has spent the last decade in the wealth management industry in client facing roles, as a CEO in China and as a private banking executive in Sweden. Richard lives in Bangkok with his wife Jessica and three sons, Dante, Hector and Leon.
You can see his LinkedIn profile at http://th.linkedin.com/in/richardjohnsson. About Idris Idris has been in the finance industry for the best part of a decade, working as a corporate manager at HSBC HQ in London. He joined deVere Group in 2014 to help expand operations and apply his expertise in working with multinational corporations and specializes in asset management and investment portfolios. Idris now lives in Bangkok and manages a client base across Thailand and Myanmar.
You can see his LinkedIn profile at http://th.linkedin.com/in/idrisasghar About David David has a background as a Professional Engineer and has worked for Fortune 500 companies in North America. He has assisted individuals in personal finance and investing for over 20 years. He joined the deVere Group in 2013 to continue to help people grow their personal wealth and reach their financial goals. He is currently taking on new clients.
David lives in Bangkok with his wife Elaine and has 4 daughters, Aria, Mairi, Hannah and Julia. You can see his LinkedIn profile at http://th.linkedin.com/in/daviddunnpeng Kind Regards, Arjun Bapat BA (Hons), ACSI Financial Coordinator, Mob: +66 8* *** **** / Tel: +66 2260 ****-36 | Fax: +66 2260 ****
James the guy who you will meet as Dr is Richard Johnsson. Swedish guy.
He is a very lovely and also honest guy. He knows his finances very very well and one of the best advisors I have seen. Go see him and see how you feel.
But others than that the rest are a bunch of *** and *** mans. Stick with Richard and let me know how your meeting went.
Thx for the advice, however, I'll stick with my current financial planner & hotel property investments (accruing 8% & 10% annually on different hotels)
Who in their right mind would invest their money with a company over a phone call, I received numerous phone calls from them, each time telling them I was fully invested but they persisted.
Finally I gave him and scheduled an appointment in their Exchange Square office located by Soi 23. The person I was suppose to meet had a "Dr." in his title, lol
I didn't so up
I worked with them for 3 months as a consultant. Was nothing but horrible.
They were arrogant. I'm Canadian/Belgium so I cannot say much about Skegness as I am not british. But I did work in their office in Bangkok and they are nothing but *** artist. They are more into social than getting customers and also the consultants the training they need.
They are total bunch of fakes and crooks. Craig Massey was one of the biggest *** I have ever came across in my entire life. I never seen someone so arrogant and also very *** He is a coordinator and acts like he is a area manager. Rude to people on the phones as well.
If it was my own business I fire his ***.Dont get me wrong they were some really lovely and kind people there at the same time too.
I got along with a few people there but the rest like Kyle and all bunch of CROOKS from your co called Skegness. I dont deal or associate with people like that.
Sounds to me like you're a loser and a failure; too afraid of a little hard work. From what I know you'd still be there if you weren't.
You're appalling attitude is why you won't do well in life how pathetic is it that you have to go on am internet site amd smear a company because you didn't fit in. I'm here because I'm thinking about going for an interview with them. Also, two of my friends have successful portfolios and they are the reason I was put in touch. And a message to James (you dumb ***) how do you think your current financial adviser got his first clients?
Do you think he/she never made a call. Good luck with you failed property investments.
Bren, best of luck in the interview. If I was you dont talk too soon
maybe you might fail your self and maybe you will do the same.
I dont know and
you dont know so just keep it shut until you do the job and maybe you might fail
or succeed. Hopefully you will do just great. Learn as much as you can. If you fail
like your saying to Bananaboy here we will laugh at you and you will be embarrassed.
You will feel silly and saying you guys are right. You have a point. But James financial planner maybe he met at a event or through his friends. Not always cold calling.
And james best of luck with your property investments you will be very successful and I was in that sector my self. Great fun and returns.
James may have met his financial adviser at an event but you are missing the point. The business models are the same for every company.
His financial adviser must have made cold calls at some point to grow his business. Everyone in the world is selling something and if you don't believe that you are naive. It doesn't mean that what they are selling isn't great or there is mal intent and lets be honest you need to approach people when it comes to finance. Who wakes up and goes "Ooooh after I have done the shopping I must go out and buy a pension?" The fact James assumes it's bad news because he was cold called is a common misconception.
Perhaps harsh to not wish James well. James good luck!
Sorry about your bad experience at that company. You should not bad mouth
but I understand the feeling if they are not treating you right.
Take the positives and
move on. Learn from them makes you stronger in your path ahead. Best of luck and lots
of success ahead.
At least you made some nice friends which is great. But keep to your self
in future.
Craig Massy
Toby Williams
Kyle Salmons
Adam Clark
Ian MacKintyre
There are many other scam artists working out of severe Bangkok. Please do yourself a favour, DO NOT INVEST THROUGH THESE 8ASTARDS!!!
Good point JockStrapper,
Many more guys to avoid if you can. They are poison and also
if you invest with them kiss your money good by.
Alot of investors
will never see the money again. If i was anybody i will close these bastards
out and help get back those poor investors money. They are crooks and also
very dishonest bunch of bullies. I would put an end to them as well.
Plus just to let you know 70 percent of the guys are illegal workers plus a friend told me they charge 70,000 baht for work permit and its at 8,000 baht not more for a work permit. *** they are and stay well clear of those ***
Unfortunately these lot really are a bunch of conning b******rds. Due to the lack of a need for financial qualifications, and the lack of enforcement by domestic authorities in jurisdictions like philipines, indonesia, thailand etc 90% of those that work there have no qualifications and no real understanding of the financial system or care for their clients wellbeing.
The life assurance linked investments that they peddle all pay huge upfront commissions and what most investors dont realise is that they can only get to there initial 18 months investment at the end of there 25 year plan or similar.
They all peddle 25 year plans because of the huge commissions, which will cost you money unless you see it out till the end. A 5 year plan is a much better option in all cases but they keep this quiet as it does not pay.
Much of the upper management were involved in boiler room scams in the late 90's early 2000's and know every trick in high pressure sales.
they treat staff like *** and bully and lie. They'll say that it is only those that fail that complain about them on websites like this. Infact they are a morally degenerate organisation who continually tell there staff that what they are doing is ok.
They say this over and over and start to believe there own lies.
its an absolute scandal that they've been allowed to operate for so long. kidding hard working expats with there sales patter.
it's about time someone exposed these crooks for what they really are.